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The Times podcast: Gavin Newsom versus the world

Gov. Gavin Newsom at a news conference
Gov. Gavin Newsom said Friday that he will call a special session of the Legislature on Dec. 5 to pass a new tax on oil companies.
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It’s hard to avoid Gov. Gavin Newsom these days, even if you don’t live in California. He frequently attacks other governors, lobs daggers at members of his own Democratic Party, and expounds on the “California way” when talking about everything from abortion access to combating climate change and more. All this action on the national stage has people asking, is Newsom low-key testing the waters for a presidential run in 2024? And if not, what’s his endgame? Read the full transcript here.

Host: Gustavo Arellano

Guests: L.A. Times columnist Mark Barabak

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